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first off .... i LOVE Batman!!!!
i've always loved Batman since i can remember, and these days there seems to be no shortage of Batman to go round!
over the years we've been Lucky enough to experience some truly amazing Batman comics, cartoons, toys, movies and video games.
unfortunately we've also been duped every so often into falling for the shameless license exploiting cash grabs!
after playing through some awesome moments in 'Arkham Origins' i honestly believe the makers REALLY wanted to make a great game
a game they could be proud of and one that we'd all praise and love!
but due to whatever reason the game is quite amiss in a number of many MANY areas!!!!
now before i start picking it apart i'd like to say that i'm glad i bought it and am getting enjoyment from it for the most part, .....BUT
i just can't begin to describe JUST how choppy the game plays!
ESPECIALLY the hand to hand combat!!!
i mean, that's the whole meat and potatoes of the game right there!!!
though while not completely unplayable it's hit or miss, and i do mean that literally!!!
this games big draw is the HUGE amount of Boss battles and when you face off in a very long drawn out battle where split decision precision timing means the difference between winning and having to restart a level all over again, it gets very VERY frustrating!!!
speaking of restarting from the beginning? IF you DARE try 'i am the night' if you die it's game over and you to have to restart from the VERY beginning of the game! highly increased difficulty coupled with faulty gameplay, this mode is only recommended to the most hardcore or those who want an ulcer?
but if you actually DO complete 'i am the night' mode you'll be rewarded with a very cool Batman 'Arkham Origins' Avatar.
somewhere along the way i also unlocked a 'Joker' Avatar, but i don't recall exactly how and when i did it?
the broken non-responsive controls in this game are a sin and really hold it back from that greatness that it could have been!
but besides the faulty controls there are glitches A PLENTY!
i think my favorite moment was in challenge mode when an enemy was holding a crate over his head to throw at me and i couldn't attack him.
he just stood there till the match was over still holding the crate over his head!
another instance my character went inside an elevator, and as the elevator rose my character didn't rise with it.
but more frustrating is when your game freezes and you have to restart your console
or even WORSE if your game save corrupts and has to be deleted!!!
that was probably the most glaring example of lack of quality control and gameplay testing!!!!
from a design point of view, visually and cinematically the game is a masterpiece!
the story is intriguing the voice acting is VERY good! and though it was at first jarring not to hear Kevin Conroy voicing Batman
i really grew to enjoy the vocals Roger Craig Smith provided! there are moments he sounds truly intense and powerful!
and then he also knows when to bring it back and play the cool and calculating Batman!
the Back and forth between him and Martin Jarvis as Alfred are a pleasure to behold.
a decent amount of voice cast return from Arkham City,
but a real thrill was to hear Robert Costanzo from Batman the Animated Series reprise the voice of Detective Harvey Bullock!
i'm still adjusting to hearing Troy Baker voice Joker. he's doing a decent enough job of it (not many would dare follow in the shoes of the AMAZING Mark Hamill)
but i think Baker's best Joker moments are when he makes the roll his own and has fun with it, rather than the moments where he sounds like he's trying to emulate Hamill. but that's just my own personal thoughts. even still, i think he did a good Joker and i hope to hear him voice the character again in the future.
one thing that really was frustrating was the new branching upgrade ladder!!!
i honestly DO NOT see the point of why you can no longer just immediately chose the combat boost upgrades instead of having to upgrade your armor first?!
when i'd play 'Arkham Asylum' or 'Arkham City' i'd upgrade every combat boost available before leveling up my armor even in the highest difficulty setting.
both games had such tight fighting controls, you could avoid taking damage with enough practice.
not being able to upgrade my special takedown boost from 8 hits to only 5 hits right away really made me notice how broken the combat really is.
even after i purchased the upgrade, the combat is vastly improved but overall control issues continue to be tiresome!
grapnel boost/gliding through the city also feels a bit disjointed and not as fluid as it was in Arkham City.
it seems there are less areas on the building to grapple and launch from?
soaring through the city just seems a lot less fun than it was last time!
the City is much larger than previously and while environments are reminiscent to there previous version, they are fresh and new.
the model of Gotham City is Gothic and it is beautiful! and seeing the city and hearing the powerful Musical Score is a wonder to behold!
despite all the glaring issues and flaws, there are things to enjoy here.
and Batman fanatics are in for a REAL treat! .....especially if you are a real Comic enthusiast!
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everything else aside the big question is WOULD I RECOMMEND THIS GAME?????
my answer to that would have to be, if you are a Batman fan? then.... YES!
but be warned ..... there is a LOT that needs improvement!
and although it's nowhere near as BAD as 'Batman: Dark Tomorrow' but the game requires a lot of getting used to it's flaws and hiccups.
so here are the pro's and con's
Pros-
beautiful environments
fantastic character models
great musical score
engaging story
brilliant voice acting (for the most part)
excellent cinemas
plenty of missions
lots of Boss battles
return of most fan favorite moves
return of most gadgets
Cons-
game freezes and needs to be restarted
awful collision detection in combat
non responsive controls
combat does not flow as smooth
aim of quick-fire gadgets is terrible
some of the special moves are now inefective
camera issues
difficult to navigate city
'game plus' mode not as good as 'Arkham City' IMO
upgrades locked in set sequence of availability
dark knight system challenges locked in set sequence
game save files will corrupt from time to time
i am enjoying Arkham Origins for Batman experience it delivers
there is so much potential here!
but the true shame is that with all the issues, the game is only a 3.5 when i know that with more polish it could have been a 4.5 or even 5.0!
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Winter snow falling,
Batman has glitched through the floor,
the game auto-saved
will they patch this game?
At least fix Burnley Tower?
Why did I buy this?
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This mess was not ready to be released. Glitches galore! Game freezes frequently causing you to have to restart. Boss battles have HUGE difficulty spikes. Be prepared to play many of the boss battles over and over before you can get past them. VERY FRUSTRATING! This is further exasperated by the broken/non responsive combat controls. Had to restart several missions due to the inability to interact with other characters or controls in the environment. Had multiple corrupt save files. If you must play it, wait until it's in the bargain bin.
Honest reviews on Batman: Arkham Origins - Xbox 360
I am not a gamer that is close or follows the Batman story or development outside the games/movies. So whatever story is developed I enjoy very much. I just play games because I enjoy them. I remember trying the demo for Asylum and loved it because I fell in love with the fight system. I'm a perfectionist and the fight system really challenges me and also annoys me when I know I can do better. With that being said I am glad WB Montreal kept the fighting/predator system the same. Here are my thoughts of how I view the game of just being a gamer.
Here are some of bad things first for some people:
1. Lack of innovation: This might drive some players crazy because there is not really anything new to the fighting/predator moments. At the same time if you are a fan of the older games...why change something that is great? There are some new things that were added but not much different from the base of the old games. The only new things seem to be the detective mode, where scanning crime scenes go more in depth and you need to find evidence. There is also multi-player which I have not tried yet.
2. Lifeless: Since this is a prequel you are doing missions across Gotham city and of course Arkham City before it was converted for the inmates in AC. I wanted to see civilians in the street and traffic but there was nothing. In AC there were those helicopters flying around and would follow you if they spotted you, there's not much going on in the air this time around and I felt alone in the city which should be full of life.
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When you run in to Joker for the first time and he blows up the building across the street. Then Batman grabs Joker and asks "How many innocent lives did you take?" I felt nothing because you don't see life in the city to make that connection to the citizens in the game.
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3. Prequel: I mostly hate prequels because you always know what the future outcome is going to be with some of the main characters. I liked to be surprised. Like I said above I don't follow Batman stories outside the movies/games. Introducing some lesser known villains was a plus and it helped balanced that out for me for unpredictability.
4. Freezing: I have had the game freeze up on me 4 times already within the first 24 hours I had it. There is no pattern for it and it's random. It happened to me on the title screen the first time I started it, when I was in a fight, when I was gliding around, and when I was upgrading my abilities. It seems like many people have run into freezing issues and hoping this is something that can be patched.
Now for the good things:
1. No learning curve: This could be a good or bad thing for players but for me this was good. Why change anything if it's something we fell in love with in the first two games? I loved being able to dive into the game without having to look up the controls.
2. Challenge: Even though fighting and predator is copy/paste, I found myself dying a lot more in boss fights and even a couple of street fights. Since I am a fan of the fighting in this series I paid close attention to detail in the fighting. It made me think WB Montreal put more thought into the beginning of Batman and I saw that in the fighting.
As you level up, you are limited to what you can upgrade because you can only upgrade certain abilities as long as you follow the upgrade trees. I liked this because you can't start off getting the combo finishers after a 5x hit combo as soon as you level up and pick it. This means you're stuck with 8x hits before using a combo finisher for awhile. There is no such things as perfect hits anymore as well (which is replaced by an alternative later in the game). It made gang fights a lot more challenging and made me think "this is perfect" since this is a prequel. Batman should not be an expert yet and this made me feel like Batman was "learning" and grew into the fighter he was in AA and AC.
3. Story: Seems like a lot of people are finding the story boring and ill admit at the start it felt boring until there was a good turning point within a few hours of game play. I thought the voice acting is also incredible. I knew Mark Hamill had retired from the Joker's voice and they were using someone new for Batman as well. I had to look up the voice actors as I was playing it because Joker sounded identical. I could tell the difference with Batman, but the actor was still great for him.
Final Thoughts:
The game has its ups and down and I am thoroughly enjoying it. I'm looking forward to multiplayer and challenge maps. If you liked AA and AC, this is worth a buy. I think most of the down sides is just players being picky.
I was very worried hearing that WB Montreal was taking over this game, but in the end I am very happy with what they did. There was so much worry and buzz around WB being the new developer that I was almost expecting this game to be bad. In the end I find myself smiling because WB Montreal stuck with what we loved in the game and tried to add some changes of their own. I loved that it was something I was familiar with, unlike others might not like the lack of innovation.
People complaining about the lack of innovation are just bored with the game period. I love the fighting in the game and it will be awhile before I am "tired" of the game play.
For example Assassin's Creed. I loved those games, but when I got to the 4th game (Revelations) I was so bored with the repetitive game play it took me over a year to finally force myself to finish the game and play Assassins Creed 3. Its part of human nature to get bored of things and I wouldn't be surprised if I got bored with the next Batman game like I did with Assassin's Creed.
It's almost seems like lose/lose for WB. Players will complain that everything is the same, but at the same time if WB had changed up the game play, those same people would be complaining how it's not as good as the "older" games. If you are one of those players...move on already.
If you loved the first two games, you will love this one as well. Don't over think it before you buy/rent the game because you will get lost in it like you did with the others.
Thanks for reading and I will update this as I complete the game and try multiplayer.
**UPDATE 10/27/13**
I made a mistake in my original review above. I said there were no such things as perfect/critical hits anymore. As I got near the end of the story I noticed my combo meter building up faster then normal. I looked into my upgrades and critical strikes was unlocked. I am not sure what unlocked it but it is not something you can manually level up to unlock.
Multiplayer was actually a lot better then expected. It's very hard finding a match at this time and it's probably because not enough players have finished the story before moving on to multiplayer. Since the game is new, I expect to see matchmaking to speed up by next week when more people finish the story and definitely a huge spike in players after the holidays. Currently I have only played in 2 matches and it took about 5 minutes to get 7 other players to join in a match.
Playing the 2 matches was actually pretty fun. The controls are very similar to Gears of War since you play as henchmen with weapons. Aiming/zooming is the same as Gears and you can take cover behind objects. Its basically 3v3v2. 3v3 are henchmen and the other 2 are a team of Batman/Robin. Basically its a domination style match while Batman/Robin can interrupt you. Batman and Robin get their own score by building up "intimidation".
I don't know how the scoring works in the end, because after both matches, the heroes won both times. It is random if you're playing as a henchmen or a hero. Of course if you play a hero, the controls are all the same like they are in single player. The best way to describe it right now is Gears of War mixed with Batman. There are other multiplayer modes as well but I was only able to play one mode since the others were still locked?
**UPDATE 10/28/13**
I changed my rating of the game overall to 4/5 stars. It probably should have been this rating from the start but all the freezing in the game is really starting to get to me. After reading many forums and seeing other reviews on here its a common technical problem for everyone.
Now I'm trying to get through game mode+ and when I'm trying to be more focused and into the game, it freezes up on me and I have no idea where the last save is going to be. Because of the constant freezes, it makes me more aware of the save icon in the corner of the game because I am always ready for the game to crash or freeze. Obviously that is not something you should have to be aware of when playing a game like this! If this gets patched then I will change my rating back to 5 stars. Since this is a very common problem, it probably should be patched soon... we can only hope.
**UPDATE 10/29/13**
This might be my last update for awhile since there is really nothing more to go over. I did do a few more MP matches and got to see how bad the online servers are.
They are a little laggy because when you knock someone out as a hero, the player's body could be 5 feet away as you are punching the ground to knock them out, and it still counts as a KO. If the host leaves the match, it will try to find a new host, but in the process it won't ever transfer to a new host and you will have to reset the game. Same thing happens if you finish a match and a lot of other players leave, the game will try to find another session for the remaining players to join and it gets stuck in that process and you would have to reset again.
Until they patch the freeze issues for single player, I wont bother continuing game mode+.
**UPDATE 10/30/13**
Game developers WB Montreal has acknowledged problems with the game.
"We are currently reviewing and validating issues that have been reported to us," Warner Bros. told X360A. "Updates will be deployed once we have fixes available."
**UPDATE 11/8/13**
Put the game in today to find an update! Since I wasn't sure what was updated I looked on WBM website. Looks like they fixed some on the random infinite falling points. I was able to play 3 hours without a crash or freeze even though they said they were still working on the crashing and freezing. They are still working on the corrupted game files too.
**UPDATE 11/12/13**
I continued my story and that is where the freezing happened again. The update must have fixed something because I only froze 2 times in 2 days which before it would be 4-5 times a day. With my last update I was doing the challenge maps and I guess those are fine for not freezing up on you.
**UPDATE 11/19/13**
Changing back to 5 stars since my freezing issues appear to be gone.
I was able to complete new game plus. Throughout my whole play through I only froze up 2 times which are the freezes I mentioned in the last update. It feels stable enough now for me to try I am the night mode. Tried to get into multiplayer again but it couldn't even match me up with one other person. Not sure if most people gave up on multiplayer or if they are having server issues.
**UPDATE 11/25/13**
I tried I am the Night mode. It does add extra excitement while playing it. I actually played it for a couple of hours and got to Gotham's Police Department. I ended up dying in the predator mode in the GCPD building. Weapons definitely do more damage in I am the Night mode because I took a shot gun shot in the back and died with almost 75% of my health left.
I read that physical damage from punches do more damage to Batman as well, but after getting hit once or twice, it appeared to be the same amount of damage in normal mode. I think they just added extra damage to weapons. Even though I was a couple of hours into the game and died, I wasn't even upset because I hadn't felt that excited or felt that awesome for taking on Death Stroke and not even losing half my health.
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I got about 20 hours into the game, ignoring the game freezes, and occasional glitches as i could but then my save dike got corrupted and I'm afraid to restart cause my file may get lost again. The game is fun when it works so there is that. I tried asking for a refund from wb. As a response they deleted my comment and blocked me on Facebook and havnt responded to my email so add terrible customer service to issues with this game.
